HDMI 1.3 receivers/processors - Page 4

Max Yokell · 09-05-2007, 01:11 PM

Just thought it was starting to echo in here.

Remember if you see online reviews, to post links to them.

Max

Pete Mazz · 09-05-2007, 04:25 PM

If B&K put one out, I'd be in! Seems like they take forever to catch up.

So yea, I'm watching too Max. Thanks for the ongoing updates.

Pete

Shane Martin · 09-06-2007, 03:33 PM

Rotel RSP 1069
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/09/06...cessor-preamp/

No advanced audio mentioned or shown

Ken McDaniel · 09-06-2007, 03:39 PM

Perhaps they're still working out the licensing agreements? That thing will be seriously dead in the water without the newest formats.

Shane Martin · 09-06-2007, 04:21 PM

New Pioneer Elite using Ice Power
Elite SC-09TX
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cedia07/p...rse-297195.php

Pics at the link.

Max Yokell · 09-06-2007, 09:21 PM

The Rotel is not 1.3 HDMI according to the link which I really read right after editing it into the page.

So I removed it.

Will add the pioneer in the morning the little one is pulling at my arm.

Max Yokell · 09-07-2007, 07:36 AM

Added new ultra expensive Pioneer Elite. Oddly they keep calling it a receiver but from reading the article it sounds like a pre-pro with a separate 10 channel amp that it sits on. Like a two piece receiver?!?

Sound impressive.

I have been doing some reading on Audssey system of auto room adjustment and EQ and it sounds like currently any unit not using their system like the Yamaha and Pioneer units are at a huge disadvantage. The onkyo and Denon units which both have this system seem to be the best options. This seems like the most advanced system though other companies would rather use one of their own making that lacks is kind of odd.

I really think that the unit I purchase will have the Audssey system.

I am almost ready to run out and pick up a 4308 at this point but kind of still holding out to learn more.

Max

Max Yokell · 09-07-2007, 11:21 AM

OK I have finally given into the temptation and unless some how my will power returns I will be picking up a 3808 or order a 4308 today. Best Buy is doing 3 years no interest and has the 3808 in stock and the guy told me if I order a 4308 today he will give me $100 off and it will be in on the 12th.

Kind of going back and forth over which to get but leaning towards the wireless 4308 unit.

Very very likely to give up and do this today.

Damn I feel myself wavering again. ARRRRGGHHH!!!!

I gotta do it, I doubt there will be buyers remorse.

Max

hgroff · 09-07-2007, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Apruzzese

Are there any stand-alone pre-processors with HDMI 1.3?

Still waiting patiently! Pre/pro ------ HDMI ????????

Shane Martin · 09-07-2007, 11:41 AM

Harley,
See Onkyo Integra. Or do you mean <$1k ones?

hgroff · 09-07-2007, 12:59 PM

Well now that you mention it, yeah I am probably in the under $1,000 camp, or maybe even less

, plus I am a big OUtlaw fan, so kind of holding my breath waiting on rumored Spring roll outs of new product lines for Outlaw.... but on another note. I could have sworn I saw a post about problems with Onkyo???? yes ? no ?

Michael · 09-07-2007, 03:31 PM

Some more news on the Rotel:

http://www.electronichouse.com/artic...or_preamp/C157

Shane Martin · 09-07-2007, 03:34 PM

Harley,
There's only 1 choice below $1k for an HDMI pre and that's Outlaw and who knows when they will get their stuff together. Even then I think the Integra pre at $1500 is a better value if we say the Outlaw will be $1000 or even a little more.

The only issues I know of on the Onkyo's are the popping issues that have been reported while switching HDMI sources. Otherwise rock solid.

Dennis Pagoulatos · 09-07-2007, 04:08 PM

Here's a question re: the Integra with the Silicon Optix chip. I know it can upscale everything from every source up to 1080P and output via HDMI. That's fantastic. But what about this scenario-

Can I run all HDMI sources to the Integra via HDMI (PS3, cable box in my case) and connect my non HDMI sources (Xbox 360)- and scale to 720P (my projectors resolution) and output through COMPONENT? I want to take advantage of the advanced audio and video from the PS3 through the HDMI connection- but my HDMI cable is currently dead, so the component is the only working connection to my projector. Is this possible? If possible, it would be great, since the HQV chip scales better than pretty much anything, and it would get the best possible quality to my Panny without requiring any additional projector scaling. And, to boot, I'd be getting HD audio from BR disks on the PS3. And if that works, if I decide to add a stand-alone HD-DVD player, the same would be possible. Am I crazy?

edit- And then when I upgrade the projector to a 1080P model, I would have to run a new HDMI cable to it and I'd still be completely covered by the Integra's capabilities.

-Dennis

Shane Martin · 09-07-2007, 04:40 PM

It's not possible to strip the HDCP aspects so going down to component won't work.

Shane Martin · 09-07-2007, 04:44 PM

875 review by Ultimate AV
http://www.ultimateavmag.com/avreceivers/907onk875/

Dennis Pagoulatos · 09-07-2007, 05:12 PM

bummer- then I'd have to re-run a new HDMI cable to my projector to take full advantage. I guess it's not the end of the world, just won't be fun trying to pull the old one out and run the new one.

-Dennis

Shane Martin · 09-07-2007, 06:11 PM

New Marantz receivers.
8002, 7002, 6002, and 5002
the SR 8002 $2,099), 7002 ($1,499), 5002 ($799), and 4002 ($599)

http://www.hdtv-space-forum.de/avrec...ge-t962.0.html

http://www.audioholics.com/news/trad...-a-v-receivers

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=11555432

Quote:

They have also added HDMI 1.3 to their line up of Receivers. The 8002, 7002, 6002, and 5002 will all provide support for DTS-HD MA and Dolby TRUE HD. Note, all the upgrades and new features at the SAME price point of the 8001. 8.1 PCM is also supported of course. Very welcome news seeing as Marantz is a fan favorite here on the forums.

8002 shows 4 in 2 out

Shane Martin · 09-07-2007, 06:17 PM

New B&K's

AVR 707
6 hdmi 1.3 ins. No word on HD audio support

Ref 70 Preamp

Max Yokell · 09-07-2007, 06:34 PM

Who would have guessed the day I buy a receiver there is all sort of news of new ones.

Shane Martin · 09-07-2007, 08:31 PM

B&K:
No advanced audio on it
http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/cedia2007/090707BK/

Pete Mazz · 09-08-2007, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane Martin

B&K:
No advanced audio on it
http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/cedia2007/090707BK/

Grrrrr! That's unbelievable. Time to look around more seriously. Damn!

Pete

Max Yokell · 09-08-2007, 07:03 AM

OK I added the B&K stuff and the Marantz stuff as their web sites come online I will add links with pictures as well.

Added review of the Onkyo 875.

Harley,
All the Onkyo reviews seem to be very good for the most part. You might want to consider the Intera Processor because you will be waiting along time for an HDMI 1.3 processor to hit the $1000 price point and at $1600 it is likely a very nice unit.

Max

Jack Van · 09-08-2007, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Yokell

Who would have guessed the day I buy a receiver there is all sort of news of new ones.

Max
You wont regret your purchase. I have had mine for a good while now and it works perfectly, sounds good and has, to the best of my knowlege no real issues with switch, handshake, upconversion, sound or...well anything.
You have nothing to worry about. The only choice I made was for more power, but as a pre/pro it is outstanding.

Shane Martin · 09-08-2007, 10:00 AM

Additional B&K Info
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post11558427

In short, B&K engineers told a guy that the future audio formats are board level upgrade slated for Q1 08. No idea on cost.

09-05-2007, 01:11 PM	#76
Max Yokell Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Valrico, Florida Posts: 5,711	Just thought it was starting to echo in here. Remember if you see online reviews, to post links to them. Max __________________ Max Yokell Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. Douglas Adams http://tampabayphotographers.ning.com/profile/MaxYokell Still Sex with me and involving Cameron Diaz in any way sounds good to me!!

09-05-2007, 04:25 PM	#77
Pete Mazz HTL Senior Contributor Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,104	If B&K put one out, I'd be in! Seems like they take forever to catch up. So yea, I'm watching too Max. Thanks for the ongoing updates. Pete __________________ Birth of a Media Center

09-06-2007, 03:33 PM	#78
Shane Martin Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 12,458	Rotel RSP 1069 http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/09/06...cessor-preamp/ No advanced audio mentioned or shown __________________ Think Blue, Dodger Blue My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson

09-06-2007, 03:39 PM	#79
Ken McDaniel HTL Senior Contributor Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harker Heights, Texas Posts: 1,731	Perhaps they're still working out the licensing agreements? That thing will be seriously dead in the water without the newest formats. __________________ Visit my blog: Bullet Wisdom

09-06-2007, 04:21 PM	#80
Shane Martin Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 12,458	New Pioneer Elite using Ice Power Elite SC-09TX http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cedia07/p...rse-297195.php Pics at the link. __________________ Think Blue, Dodger Blue My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson

09-06-2007, 09:21 PM	#81
Max Yokell Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Valrico, Florida Posts: 5,711	The Rotel is not 1.3 HDMI according to the link which I really read right after editing it into the page. So I removed it. Will add the pioneer in the morning the little one is pulling at my arm. __________________ Max Yokell Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. Douglas Adams http://tampabayphotographers.ning.com/profile/MaxYokell Still Sex with me and involving Cameron Diaz in any way sounds good to me!!

09-07-2007, 07:36 AM	#82
Max Yokell Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Valrico, Florida Posts: 5,711	Added new ultra expensive Pioneer Elite. Oddly they keep calling it a receiver but from reading the article it sounds like a pre-pro with a separate 10 channel amp that it sits on. Like a two piece receiver?!? Sound impressive. I have been doing some reading on Audssey system of auto room adjustment and EQ and it sounds like currently any unit not using their system like the Yamaha and Pioneer units are at a huge disadvantage. The onkyo and Denon units which both have this system seem to be the best options. This seems like the most advanced system though other companies would rather use one of their own making that lacks is kind of odd. I really think that the unit I purchase will have the Audssey system. I am almost ready to run out and pick up a 4308 at this point but kind of still holding out to learn more. Max __________________ Max Yokell Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. Douglas Adams http://tampabayphotographers.ning.com/profile/MaxYokell Still Sex with me and involving Cameron Diaz in any way sounds good to me!!

09-07-2007, 11:21 AM	#83
Max Yokell Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Valrico, Florida Posts: 5,711	OK I have finally given into the temptation and unless some how my will power returns I will be picking up a 3808 or order a 4308 today. Best Buy is doing 3 years no interest and has the 3808 in stock and the guy told me if I order a 4308 today he will give me $100 off and it will be in on the 12th. Kind of going back and forth over which to get but leaning towards the wireless 4308 unit. Very very likely to give up and do this today. Damn I feel myself wavering again. ARRRRGGHHH!!!! I gotta do it, I doubt there will be buyers remorse. Max __________________ Max Yokell Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. Douglas Adams http://tampabayphotographers.ning.com/profile/MaxYokell Still Sex with me and involving Cameron Diaz in any way sounds good to me!!

09-07-2007, 11:41 AM	#85
Shane Martin Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 12,458	Harley, See Onkyo Integra. Or do you mean <$1k ones? __________________ Think Blue, Dodger Blue My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson

09-07-2007, 12:59 PM	#86
hgroff HTL Contributor Join Date: May 2007 Location: Central Texas Posts: 474	Well now that you mention it, yeah I am probably in the under $1,000 camp, or maybe even less , plus I am a big OUtlaw fan, so kind of holding my breath waiting on rumored Spring roll outs of new product lines for Outlaw.... but on another note. I could have sworn I saw a post about problems with Onkyo???? yes ? no ? __________________ Harley Long time Audio / video enthusiast - gadget freak At 211 degrees, water is hot. At 212 degrees, it boils. And with boiling water, comes steam. And with steam, you can power a train. One extra degree can make all the difference.

09-07-2007, 03:31 PM	#87
Michael Junior Geek Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,402	Some more news on the Rotel: http://www.electronichouse.com/artic...or_preamp/C157

09-07-2007, 03:34 PM	#88
Shane Martin Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 12,458	Harley, There's only 1 choice below $1k for an HDMI pre and that's Outlaw and who knows when they will get their stuff together. Even then I think the Integra pre at $1500 is a better value if we say the Outlaw will be $1000 or even a little more. The only issues I know of on the Onkyo's are the popping issues that have been reported while switching HDMI sources. Otherwise rock solid. __________________ Think Blue, Dodger Blue My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson

09-07-2007, 04:08 PM	#89
Dennis Pagoulatos HTL Senior Contributor Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,442	Here's a question re: the Integra with the Silicon Optix chip. I know it can upscale everything from every source up to 1080P and output via HDMI. That's fantastic. But what about this scenario- Can I run all HDMI sources to the Integra via HDMI (PS3, cable box in my case) and connect my non HDMI sources (Xbox 360)- and scale to 720P (my projectors resolution) and output through COMPONENT? I want to take advantage of the advanced audio and video from the PS3 through the HDMI connection- but my HDMI cable is currently dead, so the component is the only working connection to my projector. Is this possible? If possible, it would be great, since the HQV chip scales better than pretty much anything, and it would get the best possible quality to my Panny without requiring any additional projector scaling. And, to boot, I'd be getting HD audio from BR disks on the PS3. And if that works, if I decide to add a stand-alone HD-DVD player, the same would be possible. Am I crazy? edit- And then when I upgrade the projector to a 1080P model, I would have to run a new HDMI cable to it and I'd still be completely covered by the Integra's capabilities. -Dennis __________________ "Those eggs were a lie, Steven. A LIE! They give me no eagle powers! They give me no nutrients!" -Nacho Libre "This is a good film to watch with the ladies." -Jack Van "Wow. There are lot of angry people on the internet." -Anonymous

09-07-2007, 04:40 PM	#90
Shane Martin Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 12,458	It's not possible to strip the HDCP aspects so going down to component won't work. __________________ Think Blue, Dodger Blue My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson

09-07-2007, 04:44 PM	#91
Shane Martin Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 12,458	875 review by Ultimate AV http://www.ultimateavmag.com/avreceivers/907onk875/ __________________ Think Blue, Dodger Blue My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson

09-07-2007, 05:12 PM	#92
Dennis Pagoulatos HTL Senior Contributor Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,442	bummer- then I'd have to re-run a new HDMI cable to my projector to take full advantage. I guess it's not the end of the world, just won't be fun trying to pull the old one out and run the new one. -Dennis __________________ "Those eggs were a lie, Steven. A LIE! They give me no eagle powers! They give me no nutrients!" -Nacho Libre "This is a good film to watch with the ladies." -Jack Van "Wow. There are lot of angry people on the internet." -Anonymous

09-07-2007, 06:17 PM	#94
Shane Martin Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 12,458	New B&K's AVR 707 6 hdmi 1.3 ins. No word on HD audio support Ref 70 Preamp __________________ Think Blue, Dodger Blue My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson

09-07-2007, 06:34 PM	#95
Max Yokell Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Valrico, Florida Posts: 5,711	Who would have guessed the day I buy a receiver there is all sort of news of new ones. __________________ Max Yokell Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. Douglas Adams http://tampabayphotographers.ning.com/profile/MaxYokell Still Sex with me and involving Cameron Diaz in any way sounds good to me!!

09-07-2007, 08:31 PM	#96
Shane Martin Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 12,458	B&K: No advanced audio on it http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/cedia2007/090707BK/ __________________ Think Blue, Dodger Blue My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson

09-08-2007, 07:03 AM	#98
Max Yokell Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Valrico, Florida Posts: 5,711	OK I added the B&K stuff and the Marantz stuff as their web sites come online I will add links with pictures as well. Added review of the Onkyo 875. Harley, All the Onkyo reviews seem to be very good for the most part. You might want to consider the Intera Processor because you will be waiting along time for an HDMI 1.3 processor to hit the $1000 price point and at $1600 it is likely a very nice unit. Max __________________ Max Yokell Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. Douglas Adams http://tampabayphotographers.ning.com/profile/MaxYokell Still Sex with me and involving Cameron Diaz in any way sounds good to me!!

09-08-2007, 10:00 AM	#100
Shane Martin Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 12,458	Additional B&K Info http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post11558427 In short, B&K engineers told a guy that the future audio formats are board level upgrade slated for Q1 08. No idea on cost. __________________ Think Blue, Dodger Blue My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson

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