Safari Problem

Discussion in 'Smartphones, Computers, Gaming and Networking' started by DustinDavis, Sep 30, 2017.

  1. DustinDavis

    DustinDavis Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    I have a MacBook Air, I think 2011 or some such. Just upgraded to Mac OS High Sierra, and I have Safari 11 on it. Suddenly Safari is not rendering pages properly. To illustrate:

    Laptop Monitor. Shows correctly.

    LaptopMonitor.jpeg

    Now external monitor:

    ExternalMonitor.jpeg

    See the whitespace? When the page first renders it actually shows that content, and if I click on those whitespaces it actually clicks through the content underneath. So I know it is actually downloaded to the client. Also if I take this page and drag it to the laptop monitor, it shows correctly. It only does this on Safari (not Chrome), and only on the external monitor. It's not unique to My Yahoo, I've seen this or something like it on other sites. In fact HTL also demonstrated one flavor of it. For example when I was figuring out how to show these images in this thread, I tried the "image" button in the Rich Text Editor, which displays a pop-up accepting an image URL. That pop-up does not render properly on Safari, on external monitors.

    I'm using a DisplayLink box to connect the external monitors, so yes I'm aware that could be a part of the puzzle. But it wasn't until I upgraded to Mac OS High Sierra.

    I just wonder if anyone else has seen this or has ideas.
     
  2. DYohn

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  3. Randy Rhoton

    Randy Rhoton Well-Known Member Donor War Zone Member

    I'm given to understand that there are a bunch of new ad/autoplay/tracking block type of things in this new update. Supposedly they can be turned off in settings. Advert email that outlined this came from OWC, but I didn't keep it. Anything on mac forums? I've not installed High Sierra yet, I always wait for issues to settle down.
     
  4. CJ

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    If only those last two boxes were blocked it would have been an ideal rendering of a Yahoo page.
     
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  5. DustinDavis

    DustinDavis Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    Nyuk nyuk. Don’t forget it’s affecting HTL too. ;)
     
  6. GHilinski

    GHilinski Active Member War Zone Member

    I'm having a similar problem with You Tube. The pages keep loading over and over again until I can catch it with command period. Sucks. I've read it is because of some banners ads that causing the problem.
     
  7. Randy Rhoton

    Randy Rhoton Well-Known Member Donor War Zone Member

    High Sierra now installed, by tech who installed new hybrid drive. Much better performance in general. Not noticing above issues (yet), but have question, in Launchpad there are now 7 different icons for programs that are grey barred out, and when clicking on any of them I get "cannot open as power point no longer supported". If so, why did it load them, and can I safely remove the icons/programs? If so, how? Tech guy not available for a couple weeks.
     
  8. DustinDavis

    DustinDavis Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    Are you sure they are for programs? What if you right click each and choose "Get Info"? What does it say they are/were?
     
  9. Randy Rhoton

    Randy Rhoton Well-Known Member Donor War Zone Member

    They're labeled icons with a barred circle over them. Earthlink total access, World book, World book note pad, dictionary, pro, What's new, Epson card monitor, Mac Kiev 3d weather globe. Right click does nothing, Each get the same popup response. "Cannot open because Powerpoint applications are no longer supported". These were not in launchpad before High Sierra, so if it included them and they can't be used, why did it? Seems kind of stupid.
     
  10. DustinDavis

    DustinDavis Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    High Sierra does not come packaged with all that crap. I don’t know where it came from but I would say delete them all. Looks like the sort of useless garbage that shows up via an AOL CD one might have received unsolicited via mail in 1997.
     
  11. Randy Rhoton

    Randy Rhoton Well-Known Member Donor War Zone Member

    Never used AOL, used to use those things for mini frisbee's. Might have been on the new drive. Question, will simply dragging them into the trash delete them completely or just trash the icons? Since I can't open them no way to find an uninstall option. If they're in the applications folder, same question.
     
  12. CJ

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    On a Mac, dragging an application to the trash actually uninstalls it.
     
  13. Randy Rhoton

    Randy Rhoton Well-Known Member Donor War Zone Member

    Thanks! I never knew that. Will try it later today when I get home.
     
  14. Randy Rhoton

    Randy Rhoton Well-Known Member Donor War Zone Member

    Mostly worked. Had to go into the application file in finder, most of them were sub files in something called 2005 World Book user suite, so wherever these things have been hiding, they've been in there for a while. Dragged that listing to trash and all the ones listed as part of it went away. But Epson card monitor, iMovie hd and Earthlink total access stayed put unless I enter my password. Will try that later. Heck I started out on Earthlink but when Comcast high speed fiber optic came along I switched and never looked back.
     
  15. Randy Rhoton

    Randy Rhoton Well-Known Member Donor War Zone Member

    Finally got around to using the password required prompt to delete the remaining ones, worked. Found one in the applications folder, had to search for the Earthlink one. It wasn't listed there.

    Thread fart off.
     
  16. DustinDavis

    DustinDavis Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    Wow. Incredibly I found a solution to this today. I'd written it off for the longest time, instead choosing to use Chrome on my MBP. Which was a pain because I didn't have things like Reading List, which I use often on my phone and then pick up later at home. And of course my bookmarks are all out of sorts now due to the use of two browsers. But I ran into this problem...again...on CNN.com and decided to do a quick Google search... "safari does not render web pages on external monitors". This brought up a search result that actually had a broken link / 404 when you click through. But--Google still gave preview text in the result, which read:

    Sep 12, 2017 - contents are not rendered correctly for windows moved to DisplayLink screens. Refreshing the window content when on the DisplayLink screen recovers. (23147) – Safari not rendering correctly on DisplayLink screens. To work around this issue, activate the “Disable Full PageAccelerated Drawing” flag ...

    Further searching for the Disable Full Page Accelerated Drawing Flag brought me here, to a tip having nothing to do with pages rendering improperly:


    So I used those instructions to disable the flag. Bam. It worked. Safari now renders pages just like Chrome on my external monitors connected to DisplayLink. Can't believe it was so hard to find this fix.
     
  17. CJ

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    Not sure how committed Apple is to Safari desktop to be honest. It is SO lagging any modern browser in features and functionality. Using Safari today feels a bit like using IE in the 00's.

    I wish it weren't so because I'd LOVE to have bookmark sync etc. to my phone but it is such a garbage browser.
     
  18. DustinDavis

    DustinDavis Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    Besides this problem I don’t have a big issue with it. What am I missing, though?
     
  19. CJ

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    It doesn't support even the most common plug-ins. X-Marks, Last Pass, Amazon Assistant, etc. are all musts for me. Does it even have Ad Block Pro? It also STILL doesn't support clear history on exit. That probably makes me sound like a perv but the reality is its a deal breaker for me.
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2018 at 11:51 AM
  20. DustinDavis

    DustinDavis Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    I bet it's not as robust as Chrome. However, as you mentioned I can sync my bookmarks across all my devices. I use 1Password and it has a nice plugin for that. It does have an Amazon Assistant plug-in as well. X-Marks...I tried that software twice and both times it completely fucked all my bookmarks. Not sure about a plug in but I don't need it when I'm just using Safari everywhere, and Safari's never done that to me. Adblock claims to have a Safari plug-in although I'm not using it. I don't find "clear history on exit" but there is Private Browsing. Less useful for me than a perv like you. ;)
     

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