Jack, All I'm saying is, you've traded one set of compromises for another. Clearly, for you, your current set of compromises are more preferable. All I'm saying it, it's still a compromise. If you recall, my original comment about a center channel speaker was to address Larry's comment about how you don't need a center channel if you're not sitting off-axis, and all I did was point out that a center channel is useful for more than that. That's all. Obviously, a bad center channel isn't necessarily better than no center channel, and we all agree on that. I disagree. Comments like this, and "I am not a sheep", seem to simply say - if everyone is doing something, it's cooler to do something else. From my POV, standards are there to be understood, and then applied to your own situation as appropriate. Blindly rejecting something simply because everyone else does it, is as silly as blindly following something for the same reason. Both are based on faith alone, and no understanding.