23 and WHO?

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  1. Denton

    Denton Well-Known Member Donor War Zone Member Top Poster

  2. Mike B

    Mike B Well-Known Member Donor War Zone Member Top Poster

    Mine was a simple confirmation that my parents told me no lies.
     
  3. Phil A

    Phil A Well-Known Member Top Poster

  4. capsuleri

    capsuleri Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    Most of us are mutts! And IMO that's good for biology reasons. Only DNA sequence IMO that matters are disease detection and prevention related. The PBS show Finding Your Roots is entertainment nothing more.
     
  5. DYohn

    DYohn Well-Known Member Donor

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  6. GHilinski

    GHilinski Active Member War Zone Member

    Yes most of us a mutts but mutts can also have the ability to check a box and become part of a protected or beneficial class. My old company owned Ancestry.com. When they were building the casino's in CT, we did tons of people getting document checks to see if they qualified for a pice of the action. You had to prove you we 1/16 indian. Now the biggest market for these products are for college financial aid on the FASFA form.
     
  7. John Celardo

    John Celardo Well-Known Member Donor

    I used to speak to genealogy and historical societies when I worked for the National Archives, about using records to trace family history. The records are almost all on-line now, and we have DNA. Good thing I retired.

    Maureen did the test about a year ago. My Italian mother frowned on my decision to marry a Maureen Duffy. Turns out my sweety has about 20% Italian genes and a smaller percentage of Irish! Mom died too soon to know. o_O
     
  8. DYohn

    DYohn Well-Known Member Donor

    DNA evidence cannot tell you if you belong to a tribe. Indeed no tribe that I know about accepts DNA test results to allow enrollment.
     
  9. Denton

    Denton Well-Known Member Donor War Zone Member Top Poster

    What would be acceptable? Genealogy records?
     
  10. DYohn

    DYohn Well-Known Member Donor

    Yes and that’s the only acceptable record in most cases.
     
  11. JeffC

    JeffC Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    That's the way the Cherokee Nation does it. You are required to be a direct descendant of a member of the original Dawes Roll. My wife took her card down and registered the kids last year. Pretty straight forward process with computers now.
     
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  12. capsuleri

    capsuleri Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    Shouldn't college financial aid be based on need plus merit and not genealogy? I realize certain groups have been historically educationally disadvantaged but the rectification for it should start in kindergarden through high school.
     
  13. JeffC

    JeffC Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    My kids aren't eligible for any financial aid based on their tribal status. They are 1/8 Cherokee. Once you pass a certain income, there is no advantage. Maybe admissions, but not financial aid.
     
  14. Dan Driscoll

    Dan Driscoll HTT Refugee Donor War Zone Member

    Just more evidence that the concept of racial purity is not just wrong, it factually does not exist. It is very, very remotely possible that the is a small group or tribe in Africa that is 'racially pure', but I doubt it. Unquestionably, everyone else is a mutt.
     
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  15. DYohn

    DYohn Well-Known Member Donor

    And not only does DNA not prove genealogy it is only statistically accurate, meaning it can only show you similarities to other results in their database. So my DNA test showed traces of Asian DNA not because anyone in my ancestry is Asian but because statistically a small part of my results were similar to Asian results. It’s interesting but proves nothing.
     
  16. DYohn

    DYohn Well-Known Member Donor

    And Asia is a big place. Is my small percentage Chinese? Mongolian? Siberian? Sri Lankan? And what group or tribe?? Forget it.
     
  17. capsuleri

    capsuleri Well-Known Member War Zone Member

    Based on human migration findings most of us originated from Africa - so look deeper there will also be African DNA. Similarly, humans migrated from Asian to American landmass when there was land bridge between the continents. Thus DY's small percentage is likely Mongolian (I think Chinese is a subset of Mongolian).
     
  18. Dan Driscoll

    Dan Driscoll HTT Refugee Donor War Zone Member

    Yeah, if you or any of your ancestors are Native American then you will almost certainly have Asian/Mongolian genes.
     
  19. Andrew Pratt

    Andrew Pratt Well-Known Member Top Poster

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  20. DYohn

    DYohn Well-Known Member Donor

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